Comments on: VMWare Fusion 3 impressions http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/10/31/vmware-fusion-3-impressions/ Man bites Ogre Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:49:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Steve http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/10/31/vmware-fusion-3-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-261009 Steve Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:26:55 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2327#comment-261009 @jarektabor: This sounds like typical forum voodoo, where a 'clean reinstall' fixes everything. I seriously doubt it - this Vista install is barely ever used anyway so it's about as clean as it's going to get and still be useful (no virus software installed!), so the only difference is whether or not the disk is a real partition (ie usable in Boot Camp) or a fresh virtual one. Do I think that will make a significant difference to GPU performance? Hell no. Reports I read still report significant differences in GPU performance inside a 'pure' VM rather than a hosted Boot Camp partition, and my intuition says disk type is going to be irrelevant for the GPU. It's not surprising that virtualised GPU performance is not great, but what's here is good enough to use so long as I have the option to boot 'properly' into Windows when I need full performance, which I'd lose with a 'pure' VM so it's not worth it for me. This hybrid setup, where I can use up to SM3 with 1/6th performance and do a full reboot if I want performance, is exactly what I need. @Goldfrapp0x0309: I like OS X because it's just nice to use on a laptop, once you're used to it. It feels snappier than Windows, which is no doubt partly because of the lack of a virus checker getting in the way of virtually every operation. Barring the "copy & merge folder" issue in Finder, I find it more intuitive too, again once you've adjusted. But, Visual Studio & Visual Assist still rocks the hardest for C++ development, and I miss PerfHUD & PIX - XCode is nice (esp as it's free!), but it's not quite as good, although each release improves it. So in fact as a developer Windows is still where I spend most of my time, but for random general user tasks I prefer OS X. @jarektabor: This sounds like typical forum voodoo, where a ‘clean reinstall’ fixes everything. I seriously doubt it – this Vista install is barely ever used anyway so it’s about as clean as it’s going to get and still be useful (no virus software installed!), so the only difference is whether or not the disk is a real partition (ie usable in Boot Camp) or a fresh virtual one. Do I think that will make a significant difference to GPU performance? Hell no. Reports I read still report significant differences in GPU performance inside a ‘pure’ VM rather than a hosted Boot Camp partition, and my intuition says disk type is going to be irrelevant for the GPU. It’s not surprising that virtualised GPU performance is not great, but what’s here is good enough to use so long as I have the option to boot ‘properly’ into Windows when I need full performance, which I’d lose with a ‘pure’ VM so it’s not worth it for me. This hybrid setup, where I can use up to SM3 with 1/6th performance and do a full reboot if I want performance, is exactly what I need.

@Goldfrapp0x0309: I like OS X because it’s just nice to use on a laptop, once you’re used to it. It feels snappier than Windows, which is no doubt partly because of the lack of a virus checker getting in the way of virtually every operation. Barring the “copy & merge folder” issue in Finder, I find it more intuitive too, again once you’ve adjusted. But, Visual Studio & Visual Assist still rocks the hardest for C++ development, and I miss PerfHUD & PIX – XCode is nice (esp as it’s free!), but it’s not quite as good, although each release improves it. So in fact as a developer Windows is still where I spend most of my time, but for random general user tasks I prefer OS X.

]]> By: Goldfrapp0x0309 http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/10/31/vmware-fusion-3-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-260979 Goldfrapp0x0309 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:24:59 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2327#comment-260979 Nice post, finally a graphics programmer's perspective on virtualization. I'm seriously considering going all mac with boot camp. Windows is getting "chokier" the more i get into development and digging in computers. Although still is a good platform for distribution, i believe it doesn't cater so much to the geeks of our likes :^p Nice post, finally a graphics programmer’s perspective on virtualization. I’m seriously considering going all mac with boot camp. Windows is getting “chokier” the more i get into development and digging in computers. Although still is a good platform for distribution, i believe it doesn’t cater so much to the geeks of our likes :^p

]]> By: jarektabor http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/10/31/vmware-fusion-3-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-260976 jarektabor Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:23:13 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2327#comment-260976 I just twitted Your review. At last one, where is more that VMware PR crap talk. At last some facts. BTW. Did You do any performance tests on CLEAN install of Vista/Xp/7 ? I've read somwhere in web, that only fresh installation of new virtual drive and OS on VMware Fusion 3 gives all the performance kick Fusion 3 is expected to have. Please give any feedback. I just twitted Your review. At last one, where is more that VMware PR crap talk. At last some facts.

BTW. Did You do any performance tests on CLEAN install of Vista/Xp/7 ?

I’ve read somwhere in web, that only fresh installation of new virtual drive and OS on VMware Fusion 3 gives all the performance kick Fusion 3 is expected to have.

Please give any feedback.

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