Comments on: Specialism, image management, Chromium and Windows http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/ Man bites Ogre Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Steve http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-262410 Steve Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:08:49 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2406#comment-262410 @Dan: oh dear. Still not as cheesy as the party ads though. @Damien: I think they both got what they wanted then! However, people come to resent needing, but they love voluntarily. That's in a way what I'm getting at. @Amotea: maybe they don't want to piss off the likes of Refactor! and Resharper? But yeah, Eclipse remains my most productive dev environment, so long as you use Java (although it's not bad for Python too). @Neuro: nice vid in a sci-fi sort of way. although with all that shiny tech they only really managed to do Excel and Powerpoint tasks with it, which seemed somewhat of a waste ;) @Dan: oh dear. Still not as cheesy as the party ads though.

@Damien: I think they both got what they wanted then! However, people come to resent needing, but they love voluntarily. That’s in a way what I’m getting at.

@Amotea: maybe they don’t want to piss off the likes of Refactor! and Resharper? But yeah, Eclipse remains my most productive dev environment, so long as you use Java (although it’s not bad for Python too).

@Neuro: nice vid in a sci-fi sort of way. although with all that shiny tech they only really managed to do Excel and Powerpoint tasks with it, which seemed somewhat of a waste ;)

]]> By: Neuro http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-262397 Neuro Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:39:04 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2406#comment-262397 I know what you are saying. I watched this Microsoft Produced video yesterday and all I felt was sad, because I know that by the time this tech comes around Microsoft will not be implementing it, and if it did, no doubt there would still be a start menu in there somewhere. Microsoft definitely have to strive towards something, because as it stands, I'm running XP and I see nothing in Windows 7 that makes it a must have. OSX on the other hand.... :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dact-1Tdgz0 I know what you are saying. I watched this Microsoft Produced video yesterday and all I felt was sad, because I know that by the time this tech comes around Microsoft will not be implementing it, and if it did, no doubt there would still be a start menu in there somewhere. Microsoft definitely have to strive towards something, because as it stands, I’m running XP and I see nothing in Windows 7 that makes it a must have. OSX on the other hand…. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dact-1Tdgz0

]]> By: Amotea http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-262392 Amotea Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:28:19 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2406#comment-262392 Does anyone know why Visual Studio 2010 STILL doesn't have any code refactoring support like Eclipse/IntelliJ IDEA? Come on, it doesn't even have to be that fancy, just some basic stuff such as moving methods to source files, creating implementations for definitions etc. Does anyone know why Visual Studio 2010 STILL doesn’t have any code refactoring support like Eclipse/IntelliJ IDEA? Come on, it doesn’t even have to be that fancy, just some basic stuff such as moving methods to source files, creating implementations for definitions etc.

]]> By: Damien Guard http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-262389 Damien Guard Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:29:39 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2406#comment-262389 Gates wanted to be needed. Jobs wanted to be loved. [)amien Gates wanted to be needed.
Jobs wanted to be loved.

[)amien

]]> By: Dan http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-262388 Dan Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:40:35 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2406#comment-262388 That windows 7 launch party video is awful, but this video of brain washed Microsoft Store employees made to dance in front of patrons for almost 5 minutes straight is painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8 That windows 7 launch party video is awful, but this video of brain washed Microsoft Store employees made to dance in front of patrons for almost 5 minutes straight is painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8

]]> By: Steve http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-262387 Steve Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:31:34 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2406#comment-262387 I totally agree - Visual Studio has its quirks too (such as the PITA of switching non-backwards compatible C++ runtime libraries as a silent security fix) but in general, and so long as you combine it with Visual Assist, it's the best C++ development environment out there. And .Net would probably do really well on non-MS platforms if it was officially supported by both tools and full 100% compatible library implementations. It would be a big change to do it, but the .Net compact framework has made the move, maybe the full thing will eventually? I also do still think that Office is very good. I don't need it - Open Office satisfies my needs just fine - and they're definitely milking it to a pretty obscene degree by now given how much they charge for it compared to how much has <em>really</em> changed in the last 9-10 years, but it's still inherently a good product, and SharePoint is likely to give it a good many years yet. It's just not that exciting ;) Yeah, I realise Chromium isn't necessarily always connected (Google Gears has been around for a while after all), but it's always about hosted apps, there's no support for local installation. I totally agree – Visual Studio has its quirks too (such as the PITA of switching non-backwards compatible C++ runtime libraries as a silent security fix) but in general, and so long as you combine it with Visual Assist, it’s the best C++ development environment out there. And .Net would probably do really well on non-MS platforms if it was officially supported by both tools and full 100% compatible library implementations. It would be a big change to do it, but the .Net compact framework has made the move, maybe the full thing will eventually?

I also do still think that Office is very good. I don’t need it – Open Office satisfies my needs just fine – and they’re definitely milking it to a pretty obscene degree by now given how much they charge for it compared to how much has really changed in the last 9-10 years, but it’s still inherently a good product, and SharePoint is likely to give it a good many years yet. It’s just not that exciting ;)

Yeah, I realise Chromium isn’t necessarily always connected (Google Gears has been around for a while after all), but it’s always about hosted apps, there’s no support for local installation.

]]> By: SharedProphet http://www.stevestreeting.com/2009/11/23/specialism-image-management-chromium-and-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-262385 SharedProphet Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:14:33 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2406#comment-262385 In my opinion what Microsoft does best (and I think Microsoft really overlooks this) is developer tools. They could probably make a good chunk of change if they opened it up and made Visual Studio available for non-Windows OSes, as well as providing official cross-platform .NET Framework runtimes. Sure, Visual Studio doesn't compete with the Xcode price point (imagine building an Objective-C app in VS... heheh), but I think its features are slick enough that people would buy it; other IDEs are constantly playing catch-up implementing features from Visual Studio. Barring that (and I'm not holding my breath), I think their decline will only continue. Chromium OS looks pretty cool. I read or saw a video somewhere (maybe it had to do with Google Web Toolkit? Or Wave, or something?) where Google is intending to make (and promote other people making) web apps which can be run offline. So... I wouldn't write Chrome OS off as being just for the always-connected just yet. In my opinion what Microsoft does best (and I think Microsoft really overlooks this) is developer tools. They could probably make a good chunk of change if they opened it up and made Visual Studio available for non-Windows OSes, as well as providing official cross-platform .NET Framework runtimes. Sure, Visual Studio doesn’t compete with the Xcode price point (imagine building an Objective-C app in VS… heheh), but I think its features are slick enough that people would buy it; other IDEs are constantly playing catch-up implementing features from Visual Studio.

Barring that (and I’m not holding my breath), I think their decline will only continue.

Chromium OS looks pretty cool. I read or saw a video somewhere (maybe it had to do with Google Web Toolkit? Or Wave, or something?) where Google is intending to make (and promote other people making) web apps which can be run offline. So… I wouldn’t write Chrome OS off as being just for the always-connected just yet.

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