Comments on: Game reviewers are snobs http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/ Man bites Ogre Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:49:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: GoNintendo - Bytes of knowledge - Feb 7th http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266657 GoNintendo - Bytes of knowledge - Feb 7th Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:08:49 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266657 [...] SteveStreeting.com » Blog Archive » Game reviewers are snobs (concerning LEGO Rock Band) [...] [...] SteveStreeting.com » Blog Archive » Game reviewers are snobs (concerning LEGO Rock Band) [...]

]]> By: Mark http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266333 Mark Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:37:27 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266333 There you go, you've both agreed on something! ;-) There you go, you’ve both agreed on something! ;-)

]]> By: Bazlurgan http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266331 Bazlurgan Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:34:34 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266331 Srsly... yes... Jam rules! Srsly… yes… Jam rules!

]]> By: Mark http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266284 Mark Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:05:28 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266284 Srsly....not! ;-) Srsly….not! ;-)

]]> By: Steve http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266257 Steve Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:39:29 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266257 <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/r3fDXsPE0Sc&hl=en_GB&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/r3fDXsPE0Sc&hl=en_GB&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> :D The Jam rules. Srsly.

:D

The Jam rules. Srsly.

]]> By: Mark http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266255 Mark Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:58:36 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266255 Heck, I never thought L:RB v TB:RB would cause such a stir....it's as emotive as Spectrum v C64 ;-) I purchased TB:RB in November (as a Beatles fan it seemed the thing to do). I purchased it with the full knowledge that I wouldn't be able to export the tracks to RB2 but I didn't think it would matter as I also own GH/BH (which involves disc swapping for diff songs!)...the thing is.....dare I say it....there's only so much Beatles I can stand in 1 session...so I'm obviously not a hardcore (!) enough fan! The presentation is great but IMO the fun factor is missing (perhaps it's more of an 'experience' than being fun?) L:RB on the other hand is great fun! :-) (Again, IMO!) I got it for Christmas and it's the only game I've played since then (well, I've been busy on other projects!). It's been so much fun that I've not even got around to exporting the songs to RB2 yet! RB2 is great but the choice of songs, for me, is a bit hit and miss....which makes the DLC so welcome of course :-) The L:RB tracks are just great fun and all the little sequences are so funny! (The lego dinosaur with "The Automatic - Monster" playing is just brilliant!) Anyway, I haven't got a clue what point I'm trying to make anymore (sorry, writing this eating a tuna sandwich........too much information?) just thought I'd say that, on this occasion, I agree with Steve! However, I disagree with Lee/Steve utterly on liking "Town Called Malice" so just goes to show....takes all sorts of people! ;-) .....What's that coming over the hill, is it a monster....is it a MONSTER....! :-) Heck, I never thought L:RB v TB:RB would cause such a stir….it’s as emotive as Spectrum v C64 ;-)

I purchased TB:RB in November (as a Beatles fan it seemed the thing to do). I purchased it with the full knowledge that I wouldn’t be able to export the tracks to RB2 but I didn’t think it would matter as I also own GH/BH (which involves disc swapping for diff songs!)…the thing is…..dare I say it….there’s only so much Beatles I can stand in 1 session…so I’m obviously not a hardcore (!) enough fan! The presentation is great but IMO the fun factor is missing (perhaps it’s more of an ‘experience’ than being fun?)

L:RB on the other hand is great fun! :-) (Again, IMO!) I got it for Christmas and it’s the only game I’ve played since then (well, I’ve been busy on other projects!). It’s been so much fun that I’ve not even got around to exporting the songs to RB2 yet! RB2 is great but the choice of songs, for me, is a bit hit and miss….which makes the DLC so welcome of course :-) The L:RB tracks are just great fun and all the little sequences are so funny! (The lego dinosaur with “The Automatic – Monster” playing is just brilliant!) Anyway, I haven’t got a clue what point I’m trying to make anymore (sorry, writing this eating a tuna sandwich……..too much information?) just thought I’d say that, on this occasion, I agree with Steve! However, I disagree with Lee/Steve utterly on liking “Town Called Malice” so just goes to show….takes all sorts of people! ;-)

…..What’s that coming over the hill, is it a monster….is it a MONSTER….! :-)

]]> By: Steve http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266239 Steve Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:21:20 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266239 Gotcha - presentation is fine on the 360 though (not stunning, but perfectly respectable). I didn't notice the missing vocal options - I did try non-scrolling once on RB but found it harder, but then there's no real issue with resolution on 360. I also don't have a Band Hero / GHWT style drum set to accommodate, I'm playing through my TD9 these days :D So it seems these issues are hardware-specific. I was reading the 360 reviews anyway and even there they marked it down, for not bringing much new to the table or not having the 'vision' of TB:RB. The tone of almost all the reviews was fairly dismissive. My experience with it, and that of my wife and a friend, is that it's enormous fun and the little extras like the Rock Challenges and the unlockable Lego stuff are great - and we're all adults (well, mostly) :) In my opinion, TB:RB has just as many little niggling issues as L:RB does (for the average player), yet that received much better reviews. I do think there's a lot of reviewers looking down their nose at LRB because it's a Lego game and totally missing how much fun you can have with it. Gotcha – presentation is fine on the 360 though (not stunning, but perfectly respectable). I didn’t notice the missing vocal options – I did try non-scrolling once on RB but found it harder, but then there’s no real issue with resolution on 360. I also don’t have a Band Hero / GHWT style drum set to accommodate, I’m playing through my TD9 these days :D So it seems these issues are hardware-specific.

I was reading the 360 reviews anyway and even there they marked it down, for not bringing much new to the table or not having the ‘vision’ of TB:RB. The tone of almost all the reviews was fairly dismissive. My experience with it, and that of my wife and a friend, is that it’s enormous fun and the little extras like the Rock Challenges and the unlockable Lego stuff are great – and we’re all adults (well, mostly) :) In my opinion, TB:RB has just as many little niggling issues as L:RB does (for the average player), yet that received much better reviews. I do think there’s a lot of reviewers looking down their nose at LRB because it’s a Lego game and totally missing how much fun you can have with it.

]]> By: Vectrex http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266194 Vectrex Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:30:40 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266194 I played LRB and it IS really fun of course, but on the Wii I can tell you the presentation is incredibly sloppy compared to ps3/360. The animations look like 12 fps indeo video which really distracts from the gameplay. This kind of makes me feel a bit sick because the notes etc are all dead smooth but the video isn't. Also playing it on a bandhero drum set they don't have an option to flip the wii buttons, so up is down, the joystick doesn't work etc. The button sequences to get into the game are quite random and hard for my little niece and nephew to 'get'. It's a big pain to realise someone isn't very good and needs a lower difficulty, you need a full restart. I think it was LRB that wouldn't allow a non-scrolling vocals display with tiny text which is next to impossible to read on an 46" lcd with the wii's composite only out. So overall the Wii's terrible scores compared to ps3/360 are justified I think. That said, it's still obviously stacks of fun and the drum training mode is the best :) But for kids (which I presume is who their mostly going for) it's sloppy and frustrating for them. The super-easy mode is a great kid addition though (way better than bandheros beginner mode), they should could any correct colours hit though and give you a bonus. I played LRB and it IS really fun of course, but on the Wii I can tell you the presentation is incredibly sloppy compared to ps3/360. The animations look like 12 fps indeo video which really distracts from the gameplay. This kind of makes me feel a bit sick because the notes etc are all dead smooth but the video isn’t.
Also playing it on a bandhero drum set they don’t have an option to flip the wii buttons, so up is down, the joystick doesn’t work etc.
The button sequences to get into the game are quite random and hard for my little niece and nephew to ‘get’. It’s a big pain to realise someone isn’t very good and needs a lower difficulty, you need a full restart.
I think it was LRB that wouldn’t allow a non-scrolling vocals display with tiny text which is next to impossible to read on an 46″ lcd with the wii’s composite only out.
So overall the Wii’s terrible scores compared to ps3/360 are justified I think. That said, it’s still obviously stacks of fun and the drum training mode is the best :) But for kids (which I presume is who their mostly going for) it’s sloppy and frustrating for them. The super-easy mode is a great kid addition though (way better than bandheros beginner mode), they should could any correct colours hit though and give you a bonus.

]]> By: Steve http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266171 Steve Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:29:16 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266171 My blog, my opinion - I thought that was pretty obvious. I'm not denying anyone else their opinion, simply stating mine. I'm not sure why that offends you (except that you're a bit touchy about the Beatles ;) ) Feel free to post a balancing tirade on your blog about how amazing TB:RB is compared to everything else, it's a free internet ;) I was obviously talking about Story Mode, which I consider a significant part of the game. We can play Quick Play, but a) we like to play the story mode first, and b) for random playing we usually play Rock Band 2 since we have 5x the choice of tracks there so we have way more variety. The ability to export is probably less of an issue to you because your track collection is already scattered across lots of games (and you've bought a lot of DLC specifically for TB:RB), but our collection is 90% elsewhere so it's a much bigger deal. I find it ironic that you're telling me I should let people have their own opinions, when you're the one commenting on MY blog to protest my opinion of something. I posted this in my own personal space because it's my view. So really, which of us is trying to deny other people an opinion, hmm? ;) My blog, my opinion – I thought that was pretty obvious. I’m not denying anyone else their opinion, simply stating mine. I’m not sure why that offends you (except that you’re a bit touchy about the Beatles ;) ) Feel free to post a balancing tirade on your blog about how amazing TB:RB is compared to everything else, it’s a free internet ;)

I was obviously talking about Story Mode, which I consider a significant part of the game. We can play Quick Play, but a) we like to play the story mode first, and b) for random playing we usually play Rock Band 2 since we have 5x the choice of tracks there so we have way more variety. The ability to export is probably less of an issue to you because your track collection is already scattered across lots of games (and you’ve bought a lot of DLC specifically for TB:RB), but our collection is 90% elsewhere so it’s a much bigger deal.

I find it ironic that you’re telling me I should let people have their own opinions, when you’re the one commenting on MY blog to protest my opinion of something. I posted this in my own personal space because it’s my view. So really, which of us is trying to deny other people an opinion, hmm? ;)

]]> By: Bazlurgan http://www.stevestreeting.com/2010/02/01/game-reviewers-are-snobs/comment-page-1/#comment-266170 Bazlurgan Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:09:26 +0000 http://www.stevestreeting.com/?p=2552#comment-266170 I didn't think that LRB got that bad reviews... and surely a 70% average isn't too shabby! It really confuses me WHY you even got TB:RB, after all it seems rather clear that you only have a very fleeting interest in The Beatles. Whilst I can appreciate your thoughts about not being about to export the songs to RB2, to me thats no biggie! I prefer to play TB:RB songs as part of the game, with the setting and graphics to TB:RB. BTW, for "personal choice" in TB:RB, I tend to use this little know feature called quick play... About 95% of my time playing the game is using this little know play mode. You may not have heard of it, but if you look hard enough, you might find it on the menu ;) For the record as well, as an owner of a selection of music games, including GH:WT, RB2, RB, and TB:RB... TB:RB gets the most play time, not just by me, but also Roz and Elliot as well (and that's not just my influence as a Beatles fan). I think that sometime you need to accept that other people have opinions.... And you know what? They'e entitled to them! Hell, I don't judge people who enjoy playing the likes of Just Dance or Singstar Disney... Whatever makes them happy! And if some people aren't that enamored by LRB, or actually enjoy TB:RB as it stands, so be it. I didn’t think that LRB got that bad reviews… and surely a 70% average isn’t too shabby!

It really confuses me WHY you even got TB:RB, after all it seems rather clear that you only have a very fleeting interest in The Beatles. Whilst I can appreciate your thoughts about not being about to export the songs to RB2, to me thats no biggie! I prefer to play TB:RB songs as part of the game, with the setting and graphics to TB:RB.

BTW, for “personal choice” in TB:RB, I tend to use this little know feature called quick play… About 95% of my time playing the game is using this little know play mode. You may not have heard of it, but if you look hard enough, you might find it on the menu ;)

For the record as well, as an owner of a selection of music games, including GH:WT, RB2, RB, and TB:RB… TB:RB gets the most play time, not just by me, but also Roz and Elliot as well (and that’s not just my influence as a Beatles fan).

I think that sometime you need to accept that other people have opinions…. And you know what? They’e entitled to them! Hell, I don’t judge people who enjoy playing the likes of Just Dance or Singstar Disney… Whatever makes them happy! And if some people aren’t that enamored by LRB, or actually enjoy TB:RB as it stands, so be it.

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